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12. Narcisse "Narcissus" Louis Dorr was born on 2 Dec 1844 in Mobile, AL, died on 5 Mar 1916 in Panola Co., MS at age 71, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

Narcissus' parents, Louis and Frances Dorr, arrive in America at Mobile, AL in 1840 and marry in 1841. He is born on February 2, 1844. At the time he has a two-year old sister Sylvia and a one-year old brother. Sometime after Narcissus is born but before 1847, the family moves to Kemper County, MS. We know this because the record of his brother Norman's birth shows him as being born in Kemper County.

Very little is known of Narcissus' younger days. He has four sisters and seven brothers. He marries an Englishwoman named Sara Jane Wilkins on February 2, 1849 in Sumter, AL. Sumter is on the Alabama-Mississippi border next to Kemper County. Sara Jane is a daughter of one of Louis' neighbors.

From Louis' letters:

Narcissus has his own place two miles from his father and is working for him in return for part of the crop. His father Louis is never quite happy with where he is at the time and tries to convince Narcissus to move to Arkansas or Texas, but Narcissus refuses to go.

In early 1871 Louis and all of his children that were in Kemper County moves to Panola County, MS which is in the northern part of the state. Louis moves to a bluff that overlooks swamp country and that year they are all in poor health. Martin and Narcissus rent 30 acres of bottomland two miles from their father. They pay 50 pounds lint cotton per acre, but the land is creek bottom and never fails to make less than a bale an acre. Around August Narcissus' oldest boy Edwin dies of the flu and in October Narcissus himself becomes very ill. Martin returns from Arkansas and joins Narcissus on the farm. Evidently, due to the poor heath conditions, Narcissus is ready to return to Kemper County in the fall of 1871.

In the fall of 1872 Louis sells his land on the bluff and moves eight miles to the east. For a time Narcissus and Norman rent land in the neighborhood and work together. Later Narcissus is able to buy 80 acres of land adjacent to his father's place for $900. His father writes, "he built a very good house on it. Part of it is creek bottom and made a bale (and made 18 bales of cotton the first year) to the acre besides plenty of corn and potatoes." Norman is working with Narcissus at this time.

In 1875 Norman rents land from Narcissus and is working on his own house. Henry is staying with Narcissus.

In 1876 Louis writes, "Narcisse and Shug [?] are well and are making money like Jews. He has paid for his place and has besides no less than 1000 dollars on interests. Henry is still working with him. All three made nearly 30 bales of cotton last year." In 1877 Narcissus and Edward buy another farm in the neighborhood, 160 acres for about $10 an acre. Martin lives with Louis but is working for Narcissus.

Narcissus and Sara have a total of nine children, five boys, and four girls. In November 1906 Sara dies. In March 1908 Narcissus marries Lucinda "Cindy" Jackson. In 1916 Narcissus passes away and Cindy dies in 1920.



Narcisse married Sara Jane Wilkins on 2 Feb 1869 in Sumter Co., AL.,4 daughter of Josiah Richard Wilkins and Mary Burton. Sara was born on 15 May 1848 in Halifax Co., VA, died on 3 Nov 1906 in Panola Co., MS at age 58, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 25 M    i. Albert Ernest Dorr was born on 17 Feb 1879 in Sardis, Panola Co., MS, died on 20 Feb 1918 in McAlster, OK at age 39, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

   26 M    ii. William Edwin Dorr was born on 26 Dec 1869, died on 11 Jul 1871 at age 1, and was buried in Star Place - Shiloh Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

   27 F    iii. Caroline "Carrie" Belle Dorr was born on 13 Sep 1872 and died on 4 Mar 1930 at age 57.

Caroline married Alfred Thomas Moore.

+ 28 F    iv. Marietta (Mary Etta) Dorr was born on 25 Jan 1875 in Kemper Co., MS and died on 3 May 1962 in Panola Co., MS at age 87.

+ 29 F    v. Jennie (Jenny) Dorr was born in 1878, died in 1932 in Panola Co., MS at age 54, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

   30 M    vi. Louis Henry Dorr was born on 1 Jan 1881, died on 27 Jul 1939 in Panola Co., MS at age 58, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

He never married and had no children

+ 31 F    vii. Wilma Louise Dorr was born on 26 Oct 1884 in Sardis, Panola Co., MS, died on 5 Feb 1945 in Sardis, Panola Co., MS at age 60, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 32 M    viii. Weir L. Dorr was born on 10 Jun 1888 in Panola Co., MS, died on 8 Jan 1950 in Memphis, TN at age 61, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 33 F    ix. Ella Lorine\Lorena Dorr was born on 8 Feb 1890 in Panola Co., MS, died on 16 Sep 1946 in Panola Co., MS at age 56, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.


Narcisse next married Lucinda "Cindy" Jackson on 25 Mar 1908 in Panola Co., MS, daughter of Robert Jackson and Sara Secor. Lucinda was born on 15 May 1859 in Rockland Co., NY, died on 19 Mar 1920 in Panola Co., MS at age 60, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS. They had no children.

15. Norman Franklin Dorr was born on 27 Mar 1847 in Kemper Co., MS and died on 13 Feb 1922 in Panola Co., MS at age 74.

From Louis' letters:

It appears that Norman went to Texas in January 1870. A letter dated March 1, 1870 Louis indicates Norman is in Texas with Albert and the widow. In the December-January timeframe of 1970 Norman leaves Texas and moves to Panola County. Her is married and works for his father for part of the crop. In October of 1871 Norman's wife, Fanny, dies of childbed fever after only five days of sickness.

Norman works for his father for a fifth of the crop, but the death of his wife and his bad health since Fanny died have disgusted him with the country. I intends to go backer to Kemper shortly to regain his health and then move back to Texas spring of 1872.

But it appears that Norman stays in Panola County and his father writes in March 1872 " Norman is with me again." The next year Narcisse and Norman rent land in the neighborhood and work together.

In 1875 Narcisse buys 80 acres adjoining his farther's place, and Norman rents land from Naricisse. Norman also builds his own house that year and remarries in the fall. The follwing year Norman buys a good plantation about 3 miles from Louis; place for $1800. Feb 76

The above information comes from Louis Dorr's letters.

In the 'Panola County History' on page 69 he is shown as Civil War Veteran


Paul Dorr's Comments:

Married Josephine Bishop.
Children. First, male, in the order of their ages; then female, similarly. Ira, Clinton. Maud, Byrd, Eleanor, Ora Lee, Ethel. Uncle Norman was a strong disciplinarian and Aunt Jo a splendid woman of determined character. I always thought Uncle Norman was very gentle with the girls but he was positive and (to my juvenile mind) authoritarian with the boys. [Inciden­tally, we probably need more of such parental firmness in these restless, revolutionary days of the sixth and seventh decades of the century]. I have often spoken of how I loved to visit Uncle Norman's household, not alone because Clinton and I were not far apart in age, but also by reason of the delicious Sickle pears that grew on their place and, in winter, the sausage Aunt Jodie cooked, so hot with cayenne peopper I wept in swal1owing it. Uncle Norman was afflicted (as I was, sorely, until I came to California) with asthma, and I shell never forget the odor - I would know that pungent smell today - of burning "Schiffman's Asthma Cure." In later times I would come to Uncle Norman's house and listen to Byrd's playing of the piano. Eleanor and my oldest Sister, Marion, were of nearly the same age, as was Edna








Noted events in his life were:

• Fact 1: Panola Co. Will Bk. C, P 153.

Norman married Sara F. ? about 1870. Sara was born on 8 Dec 1852 and died on 3 Sep 1871 at age 18.

Norman next married Josephine "Jodie" Bishop on 8 Dec 1875 in Panola Co., MS, daughter of William Allen Bishop Sr. and Permelia Jeter. Josephine was born on 19 Feb 1857 in Panola, County, MS (Hebron area), died on 18 Jul 1935 in Sardis, Panola Co., MS at age 78, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 34 F    i. Eleanor Dorr was born in 1886, died in 1982 at age 96, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 35 M    ii. Norman Clinton Dorr was born on 16 Apr 1880 and died on 12 Oct 1951 in Orleans Parish, LA at age 71.

+ 36 M    iii. Leonard Ira Dorr was born on 7 Apr 1877, died on 31 Jul 1947 in Panola Co., MS at age 70, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 37 F    iv. Maude "Maudie" Mae Dorr was born on 14 Jun 1878, died on 11 Feb 1950 in Panola Co., MS at age 71, and was buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

+ 38 F    v. Ora Lee Dorr was born on 23 Apr 1892 and died on 12 Aug 1981 in Sardis, Panola Co., MS at age 89.

+ 39 F    vi. Ethel Dorr was born on 23 Jan 1898 and died on 11 Aug 1989 in Panola Co., MS at age 91.

+ 40 F    vii. Byrd Louise Dorr was born on 1 Jan 1879 in Panola Co., MS, died on 21 Oct 1969 in Clinton, MS at age 90, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

17. Edward Charles Dorr was born on 16 Mar 1851 in Kemper Co., MS, died on 16 Jan 1934 in Panola Co., MS at age 82, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

From Louis' letters:

In 1873 Ed is working for his father for $20 a month. In 1875 he is still working for his father for part of the crop. In 1876 he gets married and moves to his mother-in-law's. In 1877 he buys a 160 acre farm with Narcissus.

Panola Co. Will Bk. D, P 36


From Paul Dorr's Letter:

Married Patty (Trammel), [somebody tell me; I have forgotten]. Children. In the order of birth, I think. Male: Luther, Leon. Female: Edna, Jim [Vinnie?].

Uncle Ed and his family (before Jim made her appearance in this Vale of Tears) lived for a long time down below Grandma's house at what I shall call, for want of better information, the junction of the Hebron and Sardis [or maybe Como] - Panola road. I remember one year, when Marion and I were walking back and forth to school at Hebron, a tremendous snowstorm blew up; the snow fell until it was three feet deep in that part of Panola County. We couldn't get home from school but made it to Uncle Ed's house, where we "holed up" for two or three days. You may not know it, but Luther - who many years later became a lumber­yard foreman and estimator for Carriers, and fell into habits of speech that literally butchered and beat the English language unmercifully - was, at school in my time, a grammar sharp! It is hard to believe, but he knew the English grammar back­ward and forward; he could bound a word or phrase or part of speech north, south, east and west. Honest Injun, I am not fooling. That bird was a purist. He was such a good language scholar that the teacher had a custom of requiring him to hold "seminars" and teach the other pupils grammar out in the grove under the trees! I suppose association with illiterate or indifferent whites and negroes at the sawmill and the lumber-yard, for so many years, caused him finally to feel that grammar was a futile weariness of the flesh and that speaking pure English was pedantry!


Edward married Martha "Patty\Pattie" Alice Trammell on 17 Nov 1875. Martha was born on 15 Feb 1858, died on 1 Aug 1935 in Panola Co., MS at age 77, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

Noted events in her life were:

• Marriage fact: Trammell Bible Records Show Pattie Alice Trammell Born Feb The 15 1858, Was Married Nov 17 1875.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 41 M    i. Luther Dunlap Dorr was born on 12 Nov 1876, died in 1929 in Panola Co., MS at age 53, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 42 M    ii. Leon L. Dorr was born in 1878, died in 1950 at age 72, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

   43 F    iii. Edna Irma\Emma Dorr was born on 27 Aug 1884, died in 1960 in Panola Co., MS at age 76, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

   44 M    iv. Vinnie "Jim" Dorr was born on 9 Dec 1899, died on 2 Sep 1990 in Panola Co., MS at age 90, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

18. Henry James Dorr was born in 1854 in Kemper Co., MS.

The first reference of Henry in Louis' letters was in 1875 and he mentions that Henry stays with Narcissus. In 1877 he visits Madame Heric and plans to stay and go to business school.

In 1878 Henry is back and he and Rufus are renting 120 acre plantation.

Henry married Byrdie M. Coleman on 17 Feb 1880 in Panola Co., MS, daughter of A. G. Coleman and Unknown. Byrdie was born on 3 Sep 1862 in MS, died on 21 Mar 1881 in Panola Co., MS at age 18, and was buried in Star Place - Shiloh Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

The child from this marriage was:

   45 M    i. Henry Byrd Dorr

Henry next married Alice Raines.

Children from this marriage were:

   46 M    i. Leslie Dorr

   47 M    ii. Cecil Dorr

   48 M    iii. Russell Dorr

19. Rufus Marion Dorr was born on 24 Dec 1855 in Kemper Co., MS, died on 14 Jul 1950 in Parchman [MS?] Home Of Grdtr Mrs. Andy Anderson at age 94, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

From Louis' letters:

In 1878 Rufus and Henry rent a 120 acre plantation. He and Eugene visits Madame Heric in February 1879 and evidently had quite a time at Madri Gras.

Exact Dates/Locations Of Birth/Death From Jo Helmers, Who Got Info From His Obit July 20, 1950, Southern Reporter


From Paul Dorr's letter:

Married Lillie Mabry. Children: male, Paul, Mabry. Female, Marion, Margaret [yclept Maggie], Hazel, Victorine. (Uncle Rufus got burnt-out when Paul was a small boy maybe 5 years old. This child and his little sister Marion were visiting Grandma one Sunday. Their mother, I think, had gone to see her father who lived in the Eldorado neighborhood, and their father, after taking the children to visit their grand­mother, went on, unless I am mistaken, to visit one of his brothers. Shortly after he returned to gather up the two infants and take them home, a negro riding bareback hell-for-leather turned from the road to the big gate of grandma's yard and yelled to my father that his house was burning down. Uncle Rufus (to keep the story intelligible) rushed off the steps of grandma's porch where he was sitting, the negro man tumbled from the horse and I can still see my father, heading north, his horse on a dead run - but alas! too late. Everything, even the money from his cotton crop, just sold, and the returns from which he had locked in a small cabinet (called in those days a "secretary"), went up in smoke. All of the brothers pitched in and helped Uncle Rufus build a new and simple house to house his family. I stood around, poked among the ashes, arid was an infantile observer of the building; and I was not the only observer: somebody had captured a screech-owl and tied him atop a gate-post. He sat there watching solemnly, but never uttered a screech to indicate whether or not he approved the plans.

Rufus married Lillie R. Mabry in Dec 1880 in Sardis, Panola Co., MS. Lillie was born in 1860, died about 12 Jul 1935 in Panola Co., MS about age 75, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 49 M    i. Mabry Dorr .

   50 M    ii. Rufus Marion Dorr Jr.

   51 F    iii. Marion Lucille Dorr was born on 19 Aug 1884, died on 12 Feb 1905 in Panola Co., MS at age 20, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

   52 M    iv. Paul B. Dorr

Paul married Ruth.

+ 53 F    v. Margaret "Maggie" Dorr was born on 11 Sep 1887 and died on 20 May 1964 at age 76.

+ 54 F    vi. Hazel Dorr was born on 23 Sep 1892, died on 10 May 1970 at age 77, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 55 F    vii. Victorine (D'orr) Dorr was born about 1895.

20. Frances "Fannie" (S. F.) Dorr was born about 1857.

From Paul Dorr's letter:

Aunt Fannv was rather timid - probably contributed to by the extreme extroversion of Joe McGuire; as a housekeeper she did not shine with exceptional brilliancy, but she was a kind and affectionate mother. When I was a very small child, Aunt Fanny and Mr. McGuire had married and were living in Coahoma County; my mother corresponded with her, telling her about my brown-to-auburn curls and my dawning intelli­gence [which was most probably very slow in rising above the horizon!] I found some of the old letters when I worked for Joe McGuire in the Delta many years later!

Frances married Joseph "Joe" A. McGuire.

Children from this marriage were:

   56 F    i. Lillian McGuire

   57 M    ii. Luther McGuire

   58 F    iii. Louise McGuire

   59 M    iv. Guy McGuire was born on 28 Oct 1885, died on 27 Sep 1895 in Panola Co., MS at age 9, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

21. Eugene Emile Dorr was born on 14 Mar 1859, died on 28 Sep 1942 in Panola Co., MS at age 83, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

Eugene visits Madame Heric with Rufus in February 1979 and evidently had a good time at Mardi Gras.


Paul Dorr's Comments

Married (1) Alice Coleman, a sometimes slightly affected, but charming and lovely woman who (within my knowledge) was always gentle. Children: Male: Will Hale, Lloyds Richard. Married (2) Pearl (Brooks) [you will have to supply the lady's surname]. They had no children. This household, like No. 6, above, produced no progeny on the "distaff" side. I have previously written you several recollections of life with Uncle Gene.

Eugene married Alice Coleman. Alice was born on 3 Apr 1866, died on 6 Mar 1902 in Panola Co., MS at age 35, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 60 M    i. William Hale Dorr was born in 1889, died in 1966 in Panola Co., MS at age 77, and was buried in Rose Hill Cemetery, Sardis, Panola Co., MS.

+ 61 M    ii. Eugene Loyd Dorr was born on 1 Apr 1891, died on 6 May 1977 at age 86, and was buried in Batesville Magnolia Cemetery.

   62 M    iii. Arthur Hugh Dorr was born on 12 Jul 1894, died on 16 Feb 1896 in Panola Co., MS at age 1, and was buried in Davis Chapel Cemetery, Panola Co., MS.

Eugene next married Pearl\Perle Brooks.


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